![]() Writing is just how I interact with the world. I used to leave notes when I was angry with my mother, for example, or when I wanted something. It was one of the primary ways that I even remember communicating with my parents. JW: So writing, it’s just a way that you relate to the world. ![]() JW: You were writing as a kid, when you were young. But that is quite a bit different from taking on “writer” as an identity. ![]() I can say that the act of writing has been something that I always associated with myself. Tressie McMillan Cottom (TMC): I cannot pinpoint it. John Warner (JW): I’m curious when you started to see yourself as a writer. Professor Cottom and I spoke the day after Thick was longlisted for the National Book Award. With Roxane Gay she cohosts the podcast Hear to Slay and is a nationally recognized expert on issues of inequality in higher education. Tressie McMillan Cottom is incoming associate professor at the School of Information and Library Sciences at the University of North Carolina and author of Lower Ed: The Troubling Rise of For-Profit Colleges in the New Economy (2017) and Thick: And Other Essays (2019), which was recently shortlisted for the National Book Award for nonfiction.
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